{"id":1034,"date":"2015-01-30T22:21:13","date_gmt":"2015-01-30T22:21:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/?p=1034"},"modified":"2015-01-30T22:21:13","modified_gmt":"2015-01-30T22:21:13","slug":"knowledge-for-aristotle-plato","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/knowledge-for-aristotle-plato\/","title":{"rendered":"Knowledge for Aristotle &#038; Plato"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It might be useful to look at how these two great (somehow contradicting sometimes) philosophers approached the concept of knowledge and knowing. Let&#8217;s start with the sooner &#8211; Aristotle.<\/p>\n<p>Aristotle describes three approaches to knowledge. In Greek, the three are episteme, techn\u00e9 and phronesis. Roughly speaking, they translate to &#8216;scientific knowledge&#8217; , skills and crafts, and wisdom, respectively. In more detail:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Episteme : Epistemology, the study of knowledge, is derived from episteme. Episteme was viewed by the Greeks as a partner to techn\u00e9. Plato used episteme to denote \u2018justified true belief\u201d, in contrast to doxa, common belief or opinion.<\/li>\n<li>Techne : is roughly craftsmanship or art. Aristotle viewed techn\u00e9 as an imperfect human representation of nature. Socrates and Plato also used the word, and distinguished craftsmanship (which they viewed in a positive light) from art (which they viewed in a negative light).<\/li>\n<li>Phronesis : This is more of practical wisdom. It is practical wisdom, and deliberation about values with reference to praxis (contextual). Pragmatic, variable, context dependent. Oriented toward action. Based on practical value-rationality.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It is very interesting that phronesis (wisdom) is defined as a practical and actionable&#8230; as opposed to knowledge, true wisdom is knowing what to do.. !<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>More:<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Socrates and the Starting Point:<\/strong> <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Note<\/em>.\u00a0 Aristotle, in\u00a0<em>Metaphysics<\/em>, accredited induction to Socrates:\u00a0\u00a0 \u201c\u2026 for two things may be fairly ascribed to Socrates \u2013 inductive arguments and universal definition, both of which are concerned with the starting-point of science.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Plato &amp; Aristotle: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Before Aristotle, Plato argued that what we sense is, at best, a pale reflection of a superordinate reality consisting of pure and perfect forms or ideas.\u00a0 Whereas our sensory reality is reminiscent of this higher plane, it is a debased copy that flickers and changes across time and space. For Plato, a transcendental level of perfect forms allowed us to reconcile the presence of that which is immutable and a material world in constant flux.<\/p>\n<p>Aristotle, however, questioned the explanatory value of a higher layer and saw this construct as potentially unnecessary.\u00a0 Plato had suggested that pure forms were superordinate and therefore could not exist within material things.\u00a0 Aristotle, however, wondered if this was so, then how can we gain any knowledge of pure forms?\u00a0 That is, Plato\u2019s definition of forms provided us with no method of connecting material objects to those forms they seemingly reflect. To Aristotle, forms \u2014 in this context \u2014 made no logical sense.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\">Plato and Aristotle appear as arch-exemplars of rationalist-objectivist philosophy; Plato with his preference for visionary theorizing (the turning toward a &#8216;distant heaven of Forms&#8217;), and Aristotle the &#8216;first scientist&#8217;, who spent much of his life analyzing the &#8216;substances&#8217; of nature (the turning toward &#8216;earth&#8217;).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Root Dimensions of Being: <\/strong><\/p>\n<dl>\n<dd><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\">LOGOS (Spirit) <\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>God, Creator, the measure of all that are<\/li>\n<li>Plato and Theistic philosophers<\/li>\n<li>The Way of Heaven<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\">NOMOS (Culture) <\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Man the measure of all things that are<\/li>\n<li>Social philosophers (Protagoras)<\/li>\n<li>The Way of Man<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial; font-size: small;\">PHYSIS (Nature) <\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Nature the measure of all things that are<\/li>\n<li>Naturalist philosophers (Aristotle)<\/li>\n<li>The Way of Earth<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Theories &amp; Paradigms: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Foucault&#8217;s use of episteme has been asserted as being similar to Thomas Kuhn&#8217;s notion of a paradigm, as for example by Jean Piaget. However, there are decisive differences. Whereas Kuhn&#8217;s paradigm is an all-encompassing collection of beliefs and assumptions that result in the organization of scientific worldviews and practices, Foucault&#8217;s episteme is not merely confined to science but to a wider range of discourse (all of science itself would fall under the episteme of the epoch).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1036\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/32-aristotle-knowledge.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1036\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1036\" alt=\"Aristotle's Episteme\" src=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/32-aristotle-knowledge.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"455\" srcset=\"https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/32-aristotle-knowledge.jpg 600w, https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/32-aristotle-knowledge-300x227.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1036\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aristotle&#8217;s Episteme<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/pietersenf1.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1037\" title=\"\" alt=\"Plato's Knowledge\" src=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/pietersenf1.gif\" width=\"425\" height=\"222\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\" \" href=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/pietersenf2.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1038\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/pietersenf2.gif\" width=\"425\" height=\"269\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1035\" style=\"width: 381px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/arist.png\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1035\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1035\" title=\"\" alt=\"Aristotle (384 - 322 BC)\" src=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/arist.png\" width=\"371\" height=\"436\" srcset=\"https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/arist.png 371w, https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/arist-255x300.png 255w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 371px) 100vw, 371px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1035\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aristotle (384 &#8211; 322 BC)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1039\" style=\"width: 316px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Plato.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1039\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1039\" alt=\"Plato (428 - 348 BC)\" src=\"http:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Plato.jpg\" width=\"306\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Plato.jpg 306w, https:\/\/think-grow.biz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Plato-204x300.jpg 204w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 306px) 100vw, 306px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1039\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Plato (428 &#8211; 348 BC)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>References:<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/aquileana.wordpress.com\/2014\/02\/01\/aristotles-three-types-of-knowledge-in-the-nichomachean-ethics-techne-episteme-and-phronesis\/\">Aristotle\u2019s Three Types of Knowledge in The Nichomachean Ethics : &#8220;Techn\u00e9, Episteme and Phronesis&#8221;.-<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/goodmanstrongman.wordpress.com\/2014\/03\/03\/32-the-episteme-of-aristotle\/\">32. The Bayesian Belief: 6. The Episteme of&nbsp;Aristotle<\/a><\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.quodlibet.net\/articles\/pietersen-metaparadigms.shtml<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/episteme-techne\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It might be useful to look at how these two great (somehow contradicting sometimes) philosophers approached the concept of knowledge and knowing. Let&#8217;s start with the sooner &#8211; Aristotle. Aristotle describes three approaches to knowledge. 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